The Savage Gardener
#105
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> Hello hello! My last day of school is tomorrow, then
> it's winter break! You
> won't believe this, but the newsletter is SO full
> this week that I had to
> take some of my useless comments out because AOL
> wouldn't allow any more
> text! Anyhoo, I can't tell you how stunned I was
> when I saw the responses to
> my tirade about the BBS last week. Every person
> agreed with what I said, and
> I think all but 2 agreed *completely*. I have to be
> honest and say that I was
> really nervous about putting what I said in the SGer
> because I realized that
> there could very well have been a backlash against
> me. But I risked it
> because I can't stomach what's going on in the BBS
> and even if I did get
> everyone to hate me, at least I'd have said what I
> wanted to, right? I can't
> believe how many of you feel the same way I do. In
> fact, I have a few quotes
> that really stood out that I'm including in this
> issue to show how many
> people have the same sentiments. It's good to know
> that I have supporters out
> there, even though I would have gone it alone if I
> had to. If you're
> interested in helping me out with my friend Kara's
> and my "project" regarding
> the events of the BBS, just let me know. And no,
> we're not going to go crazy
> and post a hundred negative messages on the BBS -
> we're not going to post at
> all. We're just going to somehow make ourselves
> heard and express our
> disappointment with what's going on (note! I have
> gotten what I needed to
> make ourselves heard, so if you're genuinely
> interested, let me know!). I'm
> also disappointed at how Darren encourages the
> behavior by saying how great
> the BBS fans are. Makes me wonder if he really sees
> through it or if he's
> changed and has become a pop star who sits back and
> lets the ego take over.
>
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> **"I Knew I Loved You" is up to #5 on the Rick Dees
> Weekly Top 40 this week!
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> **"I Knew I Loved You" stays at #4 on the Billboard
> Hot 100. I don't know
> about you, but I'm getting really excited because it
> could very well be the
> first new #1 song of the millennium, and that's just
> the kind of thing the
> music media flusters over. Anyhoo, the album also
> stays at #22 this week.
>
> **Still not sure if this is confirmed, but check
> your local listings just in
> case the Savage Garden taped episode of "Donny and
> Marie" airs on December
> 21st. I wouldn't want to miss it!
>
> **AAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!
> This is the SWEETEST, most darling thing I've ever
> heard Darren say in my
> entire life! Well, 3 years cuz SG have only been
> around for that long
> (almost, anyway). When asked who his idol is, he
> said..."it has to be my
> bandmate, Daniel Jones." Ok, my boycott of Darren is
> over. How can I possibly
> boycott a man who says this kind of thing??
>
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> Hello Lauren! Could you please post this
in this
> week's SGer? I have a
> few things to share. All right, first let me start
> by saying I'm an old fan,
> hehe. I've written you many times and I'll say once
> again "thank you for
> bringing back the SGer!".
> Now that I got that out, I'll continue. ^.^
> Well, I rarely check out the
> BBS just for the exact reasons you expressed. When
> people want to share their
> personal opinions, ((which we should actually see
> more of)) people jump on
> their backs and criticize them. I'm sorry, I adore
> Savage Garden to the
> fullest extent, but I too have my views. Here is the
> criticism I receive. I
> am on AOL, and they have their own chats and what
> not. Well, I have been a
> professional role-player for around a year and a
> half. It, along with Savage
> Garden, are the only reasons I get online. So I
> thought it would be neat to
> start role-playing Darren one day in March...and I
> did. Guess what? It turned
> out great! I have gotten many compliments over how
> well I RP ((role-play))
> the character Darren Hayes! I even have a site up
> and everything. So here's
> the downside. I am female. Yup, 100%, hehe. It's not
> really a big issue with
> me, because I rarely talk out of character. But once
> someone finds out the
> "man behind the mystery" is really a woman, they
> back off--at least a good
> percentage of fellow RPers. Granted, there have been
> some who think it's
> great. Personally, I think I have done a brave thing
> to play not just a male,
> but a singer...and well! I feel it has brought me
> closer to the lifestyle of
> Daz.
> Soon later, due to lack of willing SG fans
who
> can RP, I even created a
> Daniel character. Though he is nothing like our
> Daniel Jones, ((due to no
> fault of my own. ^.^)) it is still the legendary
> Dannyboy. Nevertheless, I
> think Darren and Daniel will consider it an honor,
> don't you? And here we get
> shallow morons that jump down my throat for
> something that proves my fandom
> and devotion. When I am IMed or e-mailed by a fellow
> fan with a question, I
> am entirely honest and strive to help them receive
> their answer. That is what
> I do. I'm sorry. I guess I am just venting a bit of
> frustration. But I
> believe my way of fully expressing my devotion to SG
> is unique. I am also an
> artist and love to draw the guys as well. Through it
> all, I never feel I have
> given too much.
> Oh, and not to hype my little webpages or anything,
> hehe, here're the URL's:
> http://hometown.aol.com/sgdanjonessg/
> http://hometown.aol.com/vxdazxv/
> Feel free to e-mail me with any comments or ask
> Lauren to post 'em in the
> SGer! ^.^
> I'd really like some opinions or support. Thank you!
> And thank you, Lauren...And keep up the excellent
> work!
>
> SG DanJones [email protected]
>
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> Hey Lauren!
>
> I'll try not to take up too much of your time, since
> I'm sure you're busy
> with school, the SGer, and who knows what else :)
> (Me I'm enjoying my
> Christmas break from Drexel University, although I
> have to go back Jan. 3rd
> :P) )... Anyway, this isn't SG related, but if you
> wouldn't mind putting in
> in the SGer, I'd really appreciate it. If not, I
> understand, just let me know
> so I know whether or not I have to go hunting for
> more
> help.
>
> Thanks
> Michelle
>
>
> OK, here's the deal: A few of you might have visited
> my website, Proudfire
> (www.proudfire.com) before. Most of you haven't. The
> reason I'm sending this
> message is that I'm opening a new section of the
> site, called "the gallery at
> proudfire," early next year. It will contain 3d art
> in the form of wallpaper,
> winamp skins, screensavers, etc., much like the
> things you'll find at sites
> like digitalblasphemy.com or visualparadox.com. So
> what does this have to do with you? Well, believe it
> or not, this is not a
> shameless advertisement. No, it's a shameless beta
> tester search :) I need
> volunteers to visit the "beta" version of the site
> when it's complete
> (hopefully over the next few weeks) and give me
> their feedback over the
> design of the site, the layout, ease of navigation,
> etc.
> Note: you DO NOT have to know HTML, any aspects of
> Web design, or graphics
> design to participate. Actually, I'm looking forward
> to finding a few beta
> testers who are novice web users, because I want my
> site to be usable for
> ANYONE who visits it. Now, I can't pay anyone (I'm a
> poor college student,
> you know!) but EVERYONE who beta tests for the
> gallery will be offered a free
> "subscription" to my member's gallery, which should
> open
> a bit later than the actually gallery, sometime next
> year. It will offer more
> downloads not available in the public gallery, on
> ad-free pages. If you're
> interested in beta testing and helping a frazzled
> computer geek with her
> website, send an e-mail with your full name,
> the country you live in, and how you access the
> internet (phone line,
> University/Campus network, DSL, Cable modem, etc) to
> [email protected]. I
> will get back to you as soon as I can with more
> information. Depending on the
> response I get, I will probably take the first 100
> or so beta testers (I
> already have a few).
> One last note: You DO NOT have to be 18 to help me
> out (I myself just turned
> 18 yesterday, 12/9), but if you're under 14, please
> ask your parents'
> permission before
> offering to help me. There's nothing illegal about
> this, but I don't want
> anyone's parents worrying when you send your full
> name to me :)
>
> Thanks - I hope to be hearing from some of you soon!
>
> Michelle Sipics, geek and full-fledged SG lover
> www.proudfire.com
>
> [email protected]
>
>
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> Alrighty, as promised, here's a few of the comments
> regarding my little rant
> and rave about the BBS in last week's newsletter.
> I'm using these to show
> that I'm not alone in this and that there are a lot
> of people who feel the
> same way I do! Note, I'm keeping these anonymous,
> though! Also, for AOLers,
> you'll see that I stuck the really good lines of the
> email in black font.
>
> "I don't post there because I don't like it.. Yep,
> they almost kill someone
> for innocently asking something related to their
> private lives while they
> post thousands of messages about their body parts..
> Come on! Thank God Darren
> is such a great person and it's ok with everything,
> he even accepts the joke
> (like in the MuchMusic appearence), but I wouldn't
> like thousands of people
> talking about my body, i'd rather let them talk
> about my life...I also agree
> that Darren and Leonie shouldn't have said they read
> the BBS. Now the BBS is
> full of teeny-boopers that thinks that Darren is hot
> and fell in love for
> IKILY and thinks they are their greatest fans while
> they don't even remember
> to catch the TV performance of their "Ultimate-fav.
> band", by the time a
> boy-band releases a new album they've already
> forgotten everything about SG."
>
> "You GO GIRL! although I have no idea what the BBS
> boards are, I still think
> that message was AWESOME! Stand up and fight for the
> good, honest people of
> the world! RENNY IS MY HERO!!!!!!" (Note from me!
> Renny is the nickname she
> calls me. LauREN=Ren=Renny)
>
> "I totally agree with you about the bbs..I mean when
> I do go to the board, I
> usually talk to maybe 2 ppl on there.I don't even
> post anything on the board
> anymore, b/c I don't want everyone yelling at me."
>
> "I just have to say that I totally agree with you
> over the sony BBS..... I
> haven't been on the BBS much until recently that
> people told me about Darren
> replied to a message on the board. Anyway, put that
> aside. From since when
> the BBS started, I thought it may be wrong. You
> remember what happened to the
> one in the OZ official site??? Because it went
> outrageous with the rumours
> and stuff they eventually shut it off. Sometimes it
> pisses me off when fans
> fight against each other about little issues. to me
> the BBS seems like a
> place NOT for people to share opinions BUT to gain
> attention from SG."
>
> "lauren...i rarely email someone i don't know but
> your last newsletter was
> one of the best things i've read about savage garden
> fans and the bbs
> specifically. you nailed everyting and restated
> everything i have been
> thinking. i've said so many times that darren made a
> big mistake in telling
> the fans he reads it...it's become a forum for alot
> of these girls to try to
> get his or leonies attention. like you said....a big
> ego boost for him.
>
> keep up the honest and insightful job on the savage
> gardener! i missed it
> when you stopped and i think you could have a career
> in journalism. your
> unbiased reporting would be put to good use!!"
>
> "i just wanted to tell ya that i totally agree w/
> you about the ppl on the
> BBS.. and i know there's more ppl that feel the
> same... and it really was a
> mistake on Leo and Darren's part for saying they
> read it.. i don't even know
> how many times i've seen.. "leonie please read!"..
> or.. "darren please
> read!"... they're just all competing w/ each other
> to see who can kiss up the
> most and it's so childish and annoying... i hope
> they don't think ALL the
> fans are like this.. some of us are actually
> "normal"...
>
> welp.. i guess i'll stop for now.. cuz i could go on
> for DAYS on what i think
> about the whole BBS deal.."
>
> "i don't think i realized how bad the fan situation
> (on the BBS) had gotten.
> (of course, i am pretty oblivious in my own little
> i-hate-finals world, but
> still...) that's truly terrible; i always knew there
> would be the overly
> obsessive fans with the BSB/Beatles phenomenon, but
> i'm sorry to hear that
> they're the ones taking over. i hadn't even
> considered that my
> comment/opinion about "crash and burn" not being the
> greatest choice for the
> next american single might get me publicly executed
> or something, had i
> mentioned it on the BBS. i guess that's because we
> all feel so comfortable
> talking to you, Lauren. :) i've only tried posting
> something on the BBS twice
> or so, actually, because it's terribly ineffective
> if you want to learn
> something like- say, when they're planning on coming
> to DC?"
>
> "Savage Garden fans have become hypocritical,
> cynical, and downright to the
> level of BSB worshippers. I hate to say it, but the
> amount of loyal, true
> fans have declined greatly. There are no
> well-rounded individuals that are
> Savage Garden fans. I mean, if fellow fans don't
> band together, where will
> Savage Garden's support be? If we are fighting
> amongst each other and
> continue to be so close-minded, what will that say
> for both us and the band
> we "claim" we support? I don't know, but it
> personally sickens me. I don't
> understand what has happened to SG fans...Maybe it
> was the sudden outburst of
> SG in a long time of silence from them. But you know
> what? The true fans are
> the ones who knew what our boys were up to the
> entire time and kept up with
> them. I know what they were doing after "The Animal
> Song". I knew what they
> were doing over the summer. So how come fans like
> you and I don't receive any
> credit?"
>
> "i totally agree about wanting the sger to be an
> open forum for ALL honest
> comments. i don't even read the bbs because of all
> the crap. i looked at it
> once and realized it wasn't my kind of place. and
> now that you're back,
> you've got all the important sg info anyway!!"
>
> "I have got to say AMEN TO YA SISTA! That whole
> shpeal about the BBS....you
> tell 'em girlfriend! I feel exactly the same way!
> I never joined the BBS (I
> don't know if you did or not) because it was far too
> complicated to join, and
> well, I'm lazy :p hehe Anyway, I used to read it
> every so often, and I was
> a lil shocked! And I absolutely HATE it when
> someone will not respect my
> opinion! That's just rude and abnoxious!"
>
> "i was ALMOST contemplating reading the bbs on a
> regular basis (who said
> that?!?) just to get some news, till you started
> your newsletter back. thanks
> for saving me!!!"
>
> "the BBS really is just about trying to win daz's
> attention, which is
> terribly sad because it's as though they're changing
> all their opinions to
> conform to what they think he'd like to hear. these
> overly obsessive fans are
> turning into the backstreet boys or nsync's
> followers- which makes me
> embarassed half the time to admit i love savage
> garden! :p and that's what
> really annoys me; the fact that all these fans are
> turning SG into some kind
> of teeny bopper band like everyone else, and thus
> making us sane Sgers look
> like the teeny boppers they are."
>
> Gathered from various emails received regarding the
> BBS
>
>
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> I have some SG stuff for the Sger, IKILY was #9 on
> "The World Chart Show"
> which is pretty much a world standing. Also, I was
> at my Christmas party
> thing from work, at a resteraunt, and after dinner
> their was a dance with a
> DJ. He played a few songs, and no one was really
> dancing, then he said "Now
> here we have Truly Madly Deeply, by request, here's
> Savage Garden" and
> everybody got up and danced!! It was so cool.
>
> [email protected]
>
>
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> Dear Lauren, Hello! The last issue
of the SGer
> was great! GOD how I've
> missed those emails! Three things; 1) You're
> reassured about whatever it was
> you don't want us passing around (I have no idea
> what it is...?). 2) Thank
> you SO much about your take on the BBS (please post
> this in the SGer if you
> feel so inclined). I can't tell you how absolutely
> frustrated I am - I'm on
> two lists; one of which is pretty friendly. The
> other I definitely wouldn't
> mention the name of because I know several of them
> subscribe; but they're
> complete WENCHES. The only reason I'm still on the
> list is to see what silly
> argument will come up next or who will boycott the
> list because "their
> project" isn't getting enough attention. Its
> sickening. I'm so happy just
> to be enjoying the music, talking to other concerned
> fans, and otherwise
> having the sense to return to the real world for 95%
> of my day and have a
> LIFE. I don't see how someone with a job and a
> family and responsibilites
> etc. can say that its perfectly healthy to spend 10
> hours a day wired into
> the computer on the BBS or chats or contriving all
> kinds of ideas to get
> D&D's attention. Because its NOT healthy. I'm only
> 21 and I see this... how
> come the "grown ups" can't??? Who are the children
> in the crowd? *sigh*
> Okay, sorry Lauren, I've gotten a bit carried away.
> But GO YOU for speaking
> your mind. I can honestly say that I agree with
> every statement you put
> forth. I'm just frustrated with most fans right
> now. Anyway, 3) I have
> Rosie w/ IKILY (and Mom in the audience!!!), The
> View, the TRL appearrance
> and debut of IKILY, the CNN news bit, ET, and a
> teeny bit from MTV news on
> video. I am DESPERATELY seeking someone with Much
> Music, and anything pretty
> much Affa-ish from overseas/Can. IN PARTICULAR I'm
> looking for the video for
> UNIVERSE in decent condition - willing to trade for
> any of the above. :)4)
> Okay, 4 things - The SCCP has only 11 days to go.
> (give or take). ALL people
> have to do is email me with your personal info, a
> short message and what
> charitable things you've done this season. Whether
> it be $ donations, food
> drives, etc. Let me know what you've donated, the #
> or amt. (to be used only
> in a comprehensive total) and to whom it was
> donated. That's all. We're
> sending it to the fanzine instead of spending $ on
> X-mas cards. That's the
> way the guys would want it. The address
>
is:http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Vault/5911/sgivers.html
> Lauren, that's all for now. I'm almost done with
> finals and then I FINALLY
> get to go home! But now I need SLEEP!
>
> [email protected]
>
>
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> Hi Lauren,
> I sent this out to a bunch of lists and the BBS. I
> was wondering if it would
> be possible for you to send it to your subscribers
> or maybe just mention it
> in your newsletter. It's kind of long but I wanted
> to cover everything. Do
> you think we could possible get the SG fans
> interested in saying thank you to
> the guys this way? I thought if we could give them
> a few minutes of our day
> every day until the end of the year that wouldn't be
> a lot to ask. Remember
> when we talked about IKILY being the first #1 song
> of the Millennium? Well,
> that's where I got the idea. Maybe be could
> actually help get them in the
> history books! If you want to just pick parts of it
> out to send it with the
> SGer that would be ok. I just want to have as many
> people help as possible.
> I want to make it an international effort.
> Thanks Lauren,
> Cindy
>
> This is my message:
> Let's do something for Darren and Daniel for a
> Holiday gift from the internet
> fans. They don't want us to buy anything for them. A
> lot of us have already
> contributed to charities in their honor. What can we
> do that would be a gift
> from the heart that we all could do together?
> Something that would show them
> how much we care about them. The idea that I came up
> with is something that
> everyone can be a part of and includes all of the
> international online fans
> worldwide but I'm going to need all of your help!
>
> What have we done that really helped the guys this
> year? I think we really
> made a difference in the air play charts of IKILY
> when it first came out.
>
> What I would like to have everyone do is this: Each
> one of you, no matter
> where you live in the world, call or send an email
> to your Local Radio and
> Video station (MTV, VH1, MuchMusic, etc) every
> single day until the end of
> the year to request that they play IKILY. Some of us
> have several radio
> stations in our area (AC and top 40 stations). I
> know I have about 5. If
> there is a place to vote for it, do that too (For
> instance; Top 8 @ 8). It
> won't cost any money and it will only take you a
> minute of your time each
> day. Make it a daily routine.
>
> Then, lets all watch the charts in all of our
> countries and see if we can
> raise IKILY up just one notch on the air play charts
> by the end of the year.
> Report back to this thread whatever results you see.
> It is something that we
> can all do together as an international project. I
> know we can make a
> difference whether we see it reflected on the charts
> or not (but I think we
> will). But most important, we will be showing Darren
> and Daniel that we care
> about them and are trying to do something special
> just for them.
>
> Those of you in the US, there is an added
> bonus....since IKILY is so close to
> #1 on all of the charts (Billboard, R & R, Rick
> Dee's, Casey Kasem and the
> VH1 video chart). I want to shoot for helping Savage
> Garden's "I Knew I Loved
> You" go down in the history books as the last #1
> song of the Century or the
> first #1 song of the new Millennium!
>
> Wouldn't that be great? We could help them to become
> part of history!
>
> This is a real possibility. We are already #1 on the
> National AC Airplay
> chart and #2 on the POP Airplay chart. It just needs
> that little extra boost
> that we can provide. We really can do this!
>
> So what do you think? Are you willing to devote less
> than 5 minutes a day to
> say thank you to Darren and Daniel for giving us
> such wonderful music to
> enjoy? And show them that the internet fans really
> do love them a lot?
>
> I know we can do this if we all join together and
> really devote ourselves to
> this for them. I am sending this out to several
> hundred fans through lists
> and newsletters. I could use all of your help to
> spread the word through the
> chat rooms and clubs and anywhere else you can think
> of.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Merry Christmas & Happy New Year Darren & Daniel!
>
> ~Cindy
>
> p.s. If you don't have your local stations phone
> number and email address,
> Mark gave us some really great tools to help with
> requesting. They are on the
> main page of the Official Site. If you can't find it
> there, use my Request
> site (It also has the email addresses for video
> stations). If you still can't
> find it, then email or PM me or post it on the BBS
> and I will help you.
> Please only request in your local area and make sure
> you include something in
> your email that identifies you as a local listener.
> If you listen to a
> station on-line, and it is not in your area, that is
> fine. I listen to B105
> all the time and send them requests, that is ok.
> Just don't send them to
> stations outside your area that you don't really
> listen to. We want to
> represent the Savage Garden fans in a very positive
> manner.
>
> [email protected]
>
>
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> Hey Lauren!
>
> Here's something I just needed to get off my chest
> considering Affirmation.
> I'm wondering if anyone else feels the same way...
> Here goes:
>
> Strangely enough, since Affirmation has been
> released I have started to love
> their first album even more than I did before. It's
> so different, it's much
> more
> innocent. Much more mysterious too, maybe, I know
> the story behind most of
> the songs of this album, more than with their first
> album. And Affirmation
> gets a little bit too perfect at times. Of course
> it's good music, it being
> made with the help of very talented people (Walter
> Afanasieff to start
> with…), but
> sometimes it gives me the impression it's too
> smooth, too perfect. And I
> can't pinpoint the "mistakes" in the first album
> that makes it less smooth,
> but it
> seems less produced. It seems more honest to me.
> Less calculated maybe…
> Saying this must get close to an unforgivable sin,
> given the fact Darren has
> said their music isn't calculated and it's honest
> and from the heart, but
> still, this is the impression that I get.
> Affirmation is a great album, don't
> get me wrong, I love it to death. But the really
> beautiful, the really
> "savage", part of Affirmation starts with "The
> Lover After Me". The first
> seven songs are really good, but for me the magic
> starts at song number 8. It
> seems like that's exactly when the songs get open
> and honest and alive, at
> least to me. Maybe, because at that point the songs
> start to get more into my
> personal
> experiences with love. The first 7 songs talk about
> love in a positive way
> (except for Hold Me, I guess), or not about love at
> all. But after "The Lover
> After Me" it starts getting sad, and it might sound
> awfully depressing, but
> that's where it starts making sense to me
> personally, and that's where the
> songs start hitting the right chord. Yes, I do think
> the first 7 songs are
> really cool. But they're not magical. They're just
> cool, like so many other
> songs from other artists. The last 5 songs are
> magic. The last 5 songs make
> me cry, especially "Gunning Down Romance". And, the
> last 5 songs are to me
> what Savage Garden is about, which is music that's
> different. Music that you
> really need to be talented for to make. And maybe it
> sounds horrible, but in
> my opinion the first 7 songs (with the exception of
> Hold Me, I realized while
> writing this… So to make things complicated: I'd
> put Hold Me with the last 5
> songs of the album) sound too much like
> music-that-everybody-could-make.
> They're really good songs, but they're not
> distinctively Savage Garden songs.
> To me personally, a Savage Garden song is a clever,
> unique song that moves me
> somehow. It could make me cry, it could make me jump
> around
> uncontrollably, it can make me do tons of different
> things, the point is, it
> makes me do something. And on their first album,
> plus the b-sides that went
> along with it, every single song fell into that
> category. I don't know about
> Affirmation though… For example, I Knew I Loved
> You is a very sweet song,
> it's very romantic, and yes, very innocent. But I
> have to admit, most of the
> time I think it's too sweet and too mushy. Most of
> the time I would call it
> an "okay song", not a "great song". But maybe this
> album just needs to grow
> on me… Maybe I won't appreciate it as much until
> the next album comes out. I
> guess it's hard to compare Affirmation to the first
> one, cuz I've been
> playing the first one for a year and a half, and
> Affirmation only for a
> couple of weeks. I feel like the first album is a
> part of me, of my life, and
> Affirmation
> isn't, at least not yet. So I guess you'll have to
> ask me again in a couple
> of months, and I'll probably be in a completely
> different position with my
> opinion, `cause I change my opinion (especially
> about music) pretty often,
> and pretty radical. But Savage Garden has been my
> absolute favorite for the
> past year and a half and I know it's never gonna
> change. So that's quite an
> achievement for the guys, to keep somebody like me,
> who changes like a
> chameleon considering music (you should see my cd
> collection, it goes from
> Nsync to The Offspring, and from Celine Dion to
> Skunk Anansie, it's crazy…),
> interested for a year and a half. So I'll just end
> this on a positive note:
> Hurray
> to Darren and Daniel for being a huge inspiration
> and support in difficult
> times, and most of all, for moving me with their
> music, non-stop and
> everlasting.
>
> PS: As soon as I finished this piece of writing I
> realized I'd put Crash and
> Burn with the last 5 songs too... Geez, I really
> can't make up my mind, now
> canI??
>
> [email protected]
>
> Can I just say here that if she posted this on the
> BBS, she would have gotten
> eaten alive? ~Lauren :o)
>
>
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>
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>
> Are you looking for a tape of a performance, a CD,
> posters, or anything else
> Savage-related? If so, put an ad in the new section
> - Savage Classifieds.
> This is for any kind of merchandise for Savage
> Garden that you're looking for
> or selling. You can put an ad in if you're looking
> for something, selling
> something, or looking to trade something.
>
> Remember, if you want to respond to an ad, email the
> person who placed it
> (their email address will always be included), not
> me.
>
>
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> Hello, the true fans are out there.
> Are you one of them?
>
> Bit by bit
> As the days go by
> Our integrity is being destroyed.
>
> Fake and pretentious people
> Are distorting the opinion
> People have of Savage Garden fans
>
> Soon we will all be seen as
> teenyboppers
> And who wants that?
> I know I don't
>
> You told Lauren how you felt
>
> ...now show you mean it by joining us
>
>
> [email protected]
>
The "Hello, the
> true fans are out there"
> Project
>
>
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> **Sites to visit!
> http://www.freevote.com/booth/sgsingle
> http://www.geocities.com/happyhappy_101
>
> **I promised that Tina's story about her
> disappointing meeting with Darren
> (and mainly, the BBSers response to it) would appear
> this week, but as the
> newsletter is so completely FULL, I can't fit the
> story in (didn't realize
> AOL had limits!)! It'll go in immediately to next
> week's issue, and I
> APOLOGIZE to Tina. You'll definitely get it next
> week!!
>
> Well, that's it for this week. Again, if you're
> concerned about what's
> happening to the Savage Garden fanbase, then PLEASE
> let me know if you'd be
> interested in helping me and Kara out for our
> "Hello, the true fans are out
> there" Project. Our number may be declining (and
> rapidly!) but we can still
> be as strong and supportive as we always have been,
> and we aim to make that
> known. In the meantime, school's almost out for
> Christmas! Catch ya next week!
>
> Peace, love, and Savage Garden!
> Lauren ( <A HREF="mailto:
> [email protected]">[email protected]</A> )
>
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